‘You Can Achieve Success Differently’: Embracing Your Personality In Business

An often overlooked aspect of showing up online is your personality. 

We aren’t all made the same and your personality SHOULD shape the way you create content, build communities, and find success in business.

In this episode of Community, Kristina and Maria are sharing their own journeys of discovering how they show up on social media and in business best, how they've embraced their unique strengths as business partners and why authenticity always wins.

If you've ever felt the pressure to show up a certain way or change who you naturally are, this episode is here to remind you: success comes differently for everyone.

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Kristina Bartold (00:02.191)
everyone and welcome to my podcast Community. I'm Christina and I'm a passionate community builder, business owner, investor, and lover of all things sales and marketing. On this show, I bring you top sales and social media tips, plus bring you experts who are going to rock your world when it comes to learning how to grow your community. Community has been my secret sauce in scaling our business and I know it'll be yours too. Enjoy. Hey everyone and welcome to another episode of Community.

I need to find a better way to intro Maria because every time I'm like I'm so excited my besties here and I'm so excited my besties here. Hi Maria. Hi. We're gonna talk about something so fun today and I knew you were gonna be so excited about it when the topic came up from Ben, essentially our content manager, but about personalities and social media and how different people show up in different ways and I know this has been such a like permissive area, especially for you around like...

how to show up and how you and I do it so differently and how it yields different results for both of us. And so we were gonna talk about that. Yeah, I love it. If you guys know me, you know I'm into anything personality type. Like any quiz I can take, I will be taking any information you can give me. I just love the self-discovery and uniqueness around how we all kind of operate and function. I think...

In a world where you grow up and you're told like there's only one way to be successful it's so cool to discover that there are actually like millions of ways to be successful and leaning into what makes you you and unique and Yourself is just like so cool. Yeah, okay What has been the most surprising part of that for you as you built your like following on socials like what has been? Yeah, like the the thing that's been the most surprising

The most surprising. I think what I'd say is I always thought, like I said, there's one way to be successful. And I'm surprised how many people resonate with my way of doing things and my messaging. And the more I leaned into it actually makes me me and what works for me and what feels right for me. And our friend Jeanette is also a big inspiration for this too, because I feel like she kind of went first and gave me the permission to do it. But.

Kristina Bartold (02:12.482)
watching both her and I show up in our uniqueness, it's really cool to see how many people actually resonate with our messages because it's not the traditional way of doing things, it's not the like, know, early bird gets the worm and grind and hustle and for those of you who know human design, and I are both projectors and I think the world is very much built on generators and managens and so having that voice to say like you can do success differently, you don't have to burn out to be successful, there's a...

Another way you can do it has been so cool to see the response to that because other people are realizing it's okay for them to do it differently, Mm-hmm. Well, okay, and also if you're like, does it manage and what is projector? I did an episode with Jen Walker like really early on is probably my last my first like 15 episodes And we kind of go through the full like kind of human design like what that has to do for different people So I'll link that in the show notes Yeah, and I totally agree because I think especially watching you kind of over these last few years

Show up on social like you know it comes in seasons right where like you're like I'm like so in and I'm so excited and I'm like all in on this and sometimes you're like must retreat cannot continue not into this right now And I think that that's been really you know while I'm a bit more consistently like energized not in this season, like mostly I'm more consistently kind of like energized But I'm also kind of like a little bit of like a bouncy ball where I'm kind of like like let's talk about this and Let's do this like let's do that

And sometimes I think good stuff comes from that, but sometimes it doesn't, right? And sometimes it's like a totally different thing, right? So it's interesting to see how different things resonate with people. Yeah, and I think to like be careful who you're kind of looking up to and who's a role model for you because everyone finds success in their own ways. And I think when you're so attached, like, I need to be like this person and they post every day and that's what's making them successful and all these things and you're trying to follow in someone's footsteps, sure, we can take inspiration from people, but...

Just be careful who you know who you're modeling yourself after because it's important that when you're showing up online It feels good to you, and it feels authentic and real and you enjoy it I always tell people in the social business club I'm like we can tell when you're making a real you don't want to make yeah You're you know like doing a dance that you don't want to be doing like on the other side of the screen We know you can tell when someone's making a piece of content, and they're not having fun. They're not enjoying it

Kristina Bartold (04:31.429)
They don't believe in it right like it just comes through so obviously online and I think more and more now especially with Instagram people are craving that authenticity and the realness and It's hard to bring that when you're trying to follow someone else's model of success Mm-hmm. Yeah, I always talk about this with Alex Hermos II because it's not even only model of success But it's also one style and two like bandwidth

Like people have different bandwidths in different seasons, right? And I like laugh about this a bit because Alex Hermos is like everywhere I'm always like this man could tell me anything like I'm like because he's just so familiar right his authority is just there because I see him all the time is like everywhere But we don't have a team like Alex Hermos II We have a team as good as Alex Mosley, but we don't have a team as big as Alex Hermos II and so you know We don't own a recording studio where we're being filmed every single day And we don't people following us around and all of that and that's not

Which I aspire, I don't aspire to that level of fame. And I won't do the nose strip thing, so I'm already kinda out. But, it's amazing how we see those people and we're like, okay, well Alex does it, so I need to be omnipresent. This person does it, I need to be omnipresent, I need to show up more, I need to do this. And even people who I really look up to, have been mentors to me, who major audiences, like...

The amount of work that goes into them making content, I'm like, I'm not even interested in that. And so I think it's really about that staying true to yourself has to be part of it because otherwise you get lost and then you end up doing nothing because you're so overwhelmed by the process. Yeah, totally. I think that's like the biggest mistake people make because they're looking at all these people like Alex who are posting everywhere all the time, every day. The content's so high quality, it's so well done, he's giving such good information. Like it's like such a high standard and I think people fall into the trap of like, if I can't reach that.

then there's no point in doing it. And if you know us, we're all about messy action, showing up imperfectly, and just getting your message out there. Because actually, think imperfect is kind of a strategy these days, But that's what, like, people want to know you. And when you are trying to build that know, like, interest, too, like, for your business, it's important that you're showing up authentically. Because, like, in the social snippet, if we were showing up, you know, trying to...

Kristina Bartold (06:37.808)
talk about analytics and data and like all these like strategies that wouldn't really feel that authentic to us. Like we want to talk about community and building loyal fans that are actually going to buy from you and what actually matters to us as an agency and that comes through in our work. So I think that's the other piece of it. Like you have to show up authentically and imperfectly because it represents your business and that needs to be authentic in order for you to find the right.

customers or ideal clients totally because we have people totally see that right when you're not like showing up in a way that feels good for you and I think it's also about building systems like you know you and I I think are in a different season where we do have a bit more team and and now having like team that's kind of Dedicated to like making content like kind of like today like you know we have a little bit more where it's like Less it's a little more canned than it's ever been right where it's like and it kind of has to be because of our schedules

But like in the early days we showed up, like we just showed up, like we just went on stories when we could, we made reels and we learned how to do the reels when we could. Like we learned alongside a lot of our clients because Instagram changed so much, of especially in that first year we were in business. We literally started the social snippet and then a month later, Adam Asari was like, guys we have this great idea, they're called Instagram reels and we're like what?

Do we think video will take off? And boy, did it take off. And it changed the way all of our clients worked. It changed the way, it changed what people were asking us for. It changed what we wanted to offer. We were never video editors. We never had, we don't have a videography background, right? So we had to learn all these things and then that led to podcasting and all of those things took a pivot. But really at the beginning we just showed up. And I think that was like part, that's kind of part of our personalities is like, you know, I think for me, like one of my best qualities in business is that

Like I'm I just show up like I'm like I'm a quick action taker and I move I move with the times quick and For you, think you're like best quality in my opinion is that like you're so thoughtful with the things that you do and so Sometimes your actions don't look as swift as mine But they're like way deeper and so that sometimes is like what we need in business and then other times we need swift action and we need enthusiasm and then other times it's like we actually need like deep thoughtfulness and we need like a lot of strategy and like I think both

Kristina Bartold (08:46.268)
play their part which is like the beauty of us being business partners because I people don't often get both. But yeah, I think that that's been such a big part of our personalities that has been such a benefit to how we've grown this so quickly. And I think too like when you're thinking about what your personality is and how you want to show up and what your gifts are, like it's okay to lean into that and like

You know, maybe Christina would post every single day, but the posts would be like really quickly thrown together and like super, you know, maybe a little bit more surface level or something. And then maybe I'm creating these like super in-depth posts that are like, you know, take me a week to create, but they're like so deep and they really resonate with people and they save them, but I'm only posting like once a week. I think either of those strategies is okay, right? Because it's about you.

Like your like your socials you yeah, and especially for a lot of the business owners We work with who are either solo printers or have a small team or their brand is really built on who they are I think it's even more important to lean into what works for you and of course There's a little bit of like you know if it was really up to me I'd probably post like once every two months, and it'd be like a really great So like obviously pull yourself out of that a little bit and try and move a bit towards

Where you want to go, but I think leaning into what works for your personality is just like so key mm-hmm What do you think for someone who's listening to this who's like I'm so scared of posting like I'm so scared of showing up like something I find to like and I don't talk about this a lot on the podcast but Prior to this business did a lot of Myers-Briggs with people right which is another personality assessment way less popular in the entrepreneur world than human design but essentially it looks at like

how you give and receive information, how you get energy, how you make decisions, how you organize yourself. And then it comes up with like a four code, and then you have a personality type assessed with that. And I would say it's also quite accurate. like, know, Myers-Briggs has been around for a long time, and it's really, really fascinating. And anyone who's listening, I'm an ESFP. You're an ENFP, right?

Kristina Bartold (10:45.746)
Which actually makes sense because it's like the little bit more type a I am than you I think is the S I'm just like the little like we always call ourselves type B There's too many examples of us being type B to share this podcast, but I think that's where that comes from but

But a big part of my Myers-Briggs type is this idea of being entertaining. it's like my type is called the entertainer. It's like about being community oriented. It's about like relationship, about showing up, about being messy, like about like, you know, being okay doing something if it doesn't go well because you tried kind of thing, right? And then there's other types that are a lot more like of a more of a perfectionist type or there's all different types of things. But anyway, with Myers-Briggs, something I saw when I used to facilitate it a lot.

was people would hear information from that and they would go, okay great, that is my excuse not to do this because my personality doesn't allow for it. So I always give this example, one of the times I facilitated for, used to facilitate like kind of corporately, and this one person said, my gosh, I'm a receptionist and I'm an introvert and this is why I hate answering the phone so I shouldn't have to do that anymore. And their boss was kind of like, my god.

Cut the cord like what are you doing over here? And I was kind of like actually that's just means that's a muscle you need to flex more than another person And that's actually just gonna take you a bit more work But doesn't mean you can't be as excellent and we have all of these possibilities within us But it just might look a little different for you or a little bit harder And so if someone's listening to this and they're like okay like I've never posted nets. I'm not gonna graphics I'm not gonna writing. I'm not gonna strategy. I'm not gonna these things

Join the social business club, but like what would you say to someone who's using maybe some of this is a bit of a crotch? Mmm. That's such a good question I know I forgot there was gonna be a question at the end of that. I was just like wow so That was so insightful What would I say to them who's the people who are using that as a crutch? It's so hard because I think these tools are so helpful and like painting the picture for us where our blind spots are and where our strengths are and all that and I think

Kristina Bartold (12:46.904)
My advice is like figure out where you're gonna draw the line of like where are gonna push yourself? And where is it like okay to let some things go yeah like even thinking about Enneagram I'm an Enneagram nine which is the peacemaker It literally gives me the biggest ick when people do those like controversial reels where they're like I don't know the hook is just something so controversial and There's so many people like Instagram coaches and people giving advice on like make that make it like super juicy and like

make people want to like fight you and like that's how you get engagement and all that stuff and like I Do not want to do like I have no interest in doing that we did that by accident once and Christina got relentlessly bullied in it It caused me anxiety It was so stressful and actually this happened to us more than once where we've gotten like negative feedback We're both like like because our community is not like that and we're talking about like fucking Instagram like sorry like now like I don't often swear out here I don't know maybe the editor will tell me otherwise, but like I don't like it's like like

Why do you care this much about Instagram that you're gonna like fucking come after me? But at the same time I understand that there's just like a world of people that that's what they do But I will say the like the peacemaker thing was really interesting because I went to an event when I was in Arizona speaking at that event and I was on a panel and it was kind of a funny experience where I You know when you say something and someone disagrees with you and you're like

Like you don't want to be like I'm out of authority here, but also I'm also like I still think you're wrong You know what I mean where you're like we weren't arguing, but it was interesting because I said if you don't want virality Fine like don't worry about it, and then someone else was like everyone wants virality mmM And I was not me like I don't know like not at all and then this other girl was like I was like I don't like it like personally because

I don't I don't want to feel comments like I don't like if I if I went viral for something I would want it to be positive But it's like it's like we're always saying that we're like we want moderate levels of fame like I'm like I'm just not interested in anything too big over here We have gone viral with sand clients go viral like all that And I know that virality actually doesn't pay the bills so it's like that's actually my point on it is that if I knew Every time we went viral we would make a hundred thousand dollars. I would do it every day You know I would find a way to do it every day

Kristina Bartold (15:01.84)
I have seen the impact of it not be positive and I've seen it actually I've seen it happen in multiple businesses where nothing has happened from it that being said the other girl that other side goes You're the people in your comments are none of your business hmm, and I was like interesting Really disagree because you know but she has built up such a thick skin right and that has been such a big part of her approach which is part of her personality she's kind of like

The ball see like you know she's wearing this like cute pink dress like she's like and she's like that's her personality And that's not my personality, and that's okay, and then the other guy Matt Allen who I was on the panel with he was like I I love virality and virality actually changed my business And here's how and I love to teach people how to say things online that are a bit kind of provocative I don't want to do that either, and so I think it's like all of these things are our Reflections of like who we are as people

And it shows that we've all had different levels of success, all of us. And I would say I was just as successful as anyone else on there. And I don't use virality as my tactic for success. So I think to speak to that is I think that it's part of the personality thing, is there's different parts of us that like different parts of social. As an entrepreneur, you're building something amazing. But are you taking care of yourself along the way? At The Wellness Lab, the team is here to support you. Whether navigating the stresses of business or looking to optimize your health, The Wellness Lab specializes in services designed to help.

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Kristina Bartold (17:24.954)
Self-proclaimed conflict where she just gave a fake trademark I think you could certify me hit not know I'm certified but Anyway there are certain areas where I'm pushing myself right yeah when I have to have a difficult conversation our business when I have to push back on somebody who's being rude to us or our clients or whatever like whatever it is right

I'm pushing myself in those areas. Yeah, and when we talk about like public speaking another one of my huge fears I'm pushing myself. I'm I'm doing it right even though. I know I'm not good at it. I know I don't like it I know I have to push myself in those areas because I know that's what's necessary But then when you look at the controversial reels I know I'm okay to let that go right like our business isn't gonna suffer if I never post a controversial reel Yeah, so I think when you find these pieces of information about yourself. It's like where can you?

Let go of some of that and just be okay with never posting a controversial reel and then where are the areas where it's actually important for you to like develop that skill and improve it and and push yourself to kind of become better Yeah, and that's where also I think it's important to surround yourself around people who maybe have different skills than you because sometimes just pushing yourself right and there's like I'm gonna push myself to do this. I'm gonna have this conversation. It's difficult. I'm scared like whatever and sometimes there's actually just like it's too much Yeah, and like and I think that's the same thing with social right like

We used to always joke about this is probably not that funny, but like I would always be about the dancing I'd be like guys you look like you're dancing a gunpoint like it's like don't do it like it looks bad like I'd rather you not post that then post this like crappy real of you dancing like and it looks like there's someone on the other side like that tick-tock trend we know where the mirror with the knife the girls are and So in the same way I think in our business like things that you're it's so funny things you're like so afraid of

I am so confident in and the things that I'm so afraid of you are like relentlessly confident in Signing PDFs can't do it. I cannot sign a PDF still even if it's a personal PDF I still send it to you to put my signature on it like I'm like I cannot figure out how to do it I am Christina Barthold Serrano's PDFs go

Kristina Bartold (19:29.906)
Just gave us way more problems than that but like even for example I get anxious when people send me voice notes and I'll be like can you listen to this voice note and summarize it for me because I'm scared and you'll be like why and I'm like because I'm nervous because what if they say something and I'm nervous about it and then you listen to it you summarize it for me right but then you know we'll be having a difficult conversation and I'll be like why don't I have that conversation or like why don't like that's an area that I'm let's kill that like

Why don't I send that person that voice memo from us like I'm happy to or like why don't I read that email over like you know we have like these different skills and that's what makes us I think such good business partners and like you know besties but like business partners over these years as we've been able to be like No, like I I know that this is gonna stress you out And that's actually I think this is gonna be too far for you in this season or like you're going through a really tough time or you've got way too much on your plate let me take that on you know and Knowing what those things are though to those boundaries like I'm never going into

Canvon making graphics and being like don't worry Maria. I made the graphics like it's like that's not where my any of my skills are but I think knowing those things that can really like Trigger us for the worse and being able to step into that is is helpful Yeah, it's such a good point and those of you who have been here from the beginning probably know that at the very beginning of social snippet Christina and I work together on all of our clients and I would do all the more like creative visual aesthetic type stuff and she would do more all of the like strategy and writing stuff

And I think there's something to that right like obviously that's not how it goes anymore, but no we won't do that for you There's no no cost But I think like it's not like I would never write a caption again for the rest of my life But it's one of those things where is there something and I always talk about this in social business club Is there something you can do to get over that one hurdle or roadblock? That's super in your way all the time. Yeah, so like

For me it's captions. So is there something I can do to make caption writing easier? Could I outsource it in a way? Could I use AI? I think it's sort of it's it's hard to answer that question point blank but I think it's sort of a mixture between like finding areas to push yourself and areas to make it easier and outsource or get support from someone else. Yeah, I think it's knowing those things like about yourself, right? You have to try things and see like for your personality like what works and I think especially like for you and I it's been so interesting seeing like

Kristina Bartold (21:44.408)
what things have worked for us and what things we've like excelled at over the years and like the things that like we thought I think we are both so much farther than we ever thought we'd be and Also, not where we thought we'd be you know what I mean like it's like it's been so interesting and and I think us being like hey like you know when we hire I feel like this is where we're seeing the biggest need between the two of us like We're struggling with this right now. How do we how do we do this like even these content is that we keep talking about that we keep doing like

This is coming from a need of us kind of being like we're not keeping up our commitments to our team like you know we we owe them episodes like we owe them content and we have a vision for the social business club we have a vision for these things and we're not doing we're not executing because we're so in the weeds like and so being able to like have those conversations of like being like well I'm feeling like I'm really in the weeds because I'm like so in it on slack every day and I'm like I'm so in the weeds because I'm like so in our admin like and then us being like okay we need to reject that and then finding ways to do that so I think

Those conversations have been really important, but it's just interesting because I think as you folks who are listening are building businesses like It's you're gonna have to do things that aren't comfortable for you. You know you're gonna have to one day honestly the first thing I would add source is a bookkeeper do not do your own numbers like we've learned the hard way but like But like you're gonna do things and you're gonna be like wow I'm not a social media manager, but I'm doing this mm-hmm. I'm not a podcast editor, but I'm doing this I'm not a website designer Maria's I was like

There's always something wrong with the website which she builds every time like every fucking time Every time and it's never like a small no mistake either. It's always bad and the other problem When the mistake happens, I don't know how to fix it. I don't know where it went wrong. It's just bad It's bad, but okay I did want to talk about this really quickly and not about your web design skills But because I think this is interesting. I think one of the best qualities you and I have is that we never blame each other mm-hmm

That I think is like the number one thing that like is actually going for us as business partners is that there's no, if there is ever resentment we talk about it, like we're like, oh that was annoying or like, you know, we've had two fights ever, one was about TikTok. Yeah, there was type form. Type form, yeah. And I did win the type form. For now. I think didn't you win, oh no, I won TikTok in the end. Yeah. Okay. So it's a one-one for now. One-one. I'm a competitive woman, literally when I used to play sports as a kid, I'd prefer that the other team would win because it would make them happier.

Kristina Bartold (24:06.29)
That tracks of bad on our team would want to win But it's okay, so you know one one and it's been four years so I think you know catch us in two years to see what the tiebreaker was but But what's been interesting is that we're never like Wow, you made this mistake And I can't believe you did that and like you were wrong like you know like even like when the website like messed up and we like sold this event and then for some reason everyone was getting like

What was it like your title? Something like emails and you're like websites broken. I'm like fair enough like you know that I went and I was able to fix it, but it's like it's like there's no like Blame, know where I've made bigger errors right and then we're like it just is and so I think that that's one of the big pieces too is that like not that there's a lot of topic for this episode, but I think if you're gonna be working with other people especially if like we think about all the different personality aspects and all those pieces like

Important piece is definitely like we're maintaining that level of like respect for one another Where it is blameless and you know we're both just trying our best and we're both doing this for the first time and working through it Yeah, totally and I think that goes like for yourself too in the way you talk to yourself right like when all these? Issues happen. I'm not like spiraling like I'm the worst person ever and I made this mistake It's gonna ruin our business and whatever it's like okay this happened

We're not looking backwards. We're looking forwards and like what are the stories you're telling yourself so in those situations the stories I'm telling myself are like I have no design or no training in web design. Yeah, am totally winging this I probably saved us like five ten thousand dollars worth of getting a website built or designed or whatever and All I can do is use this information to move forward so like what did I learn? What could I do better next time and what can we do to fix this problem right now? Yeah, that's where you and I are really strong is it's not

We're not lingering in the past, like, why did this happen? Or you shouldn't have made this mistake or whatever. So I think it is good to have people that can pull you out of that too. But just watch how you're talking to yourself about it too. And make sure you're, of course, learning from your mistakes and taking lessons. But you're moving forward and you're like, okay, here's where we're at now. And how can we move forward in a way that makes the most sense? Yeah, I love that. Even I can think about this past year, like we came across a huge financial error.

Kristina Bartold (26:24.123)
And I'm kind of the one who watches our money and I was like, my god, Maria, like I'm so sorry, like I did not know. And, but being able to go to like RCFO and being like, we're gonna be good, right? And she was like, yes, of course. And here's your plan, right? Like it could have been so easy for us to be like, my gosh, like, and then this person and then that and then this, but we just were like, okay, like, you know, like we're gonna move forward, right? And so I think, yeah, I think that's why having those people is so important in your life and, you know, building that community of like right, the right people who you can kind of lean on.

But also that's why these tools are really important for you to know yourself and so that you can know like these are things I'm really good at here are the things where I struggle Here's where I could use like the most support and be able to get what I need. I love it Okay, can you let me geek out for a second and please? Some of these tools just really quick. Yeah, just bring it back to the personality thing for a second of course I knew this was coming. Okay. Maybe we can each share our favorite Tool or test or whatever you want to call these things you can go first, okay?

And then we can just talk about the ones we named and like any other ones on the periphery that we think could be helpful and what what they're helpful for. Yeah, I'm less into this than you are. So I think you're gonna have a few more than I will. Okay, you got some from your university coaching days. Okay, human design is my favorite, obviously. Like I talk about it all the time. I'm obsessed. think it depending on what your human design is, it's more helpful for some people than others. But especially if you end up being a projector, it's been extremely helpful for me. So

At the beginning of our business, I was really trying to keep up with Christina. And if you look into your human design, you'll understand why I could not do that. Once I stopped trying, that changed everything. So that has been the biggest for me. And I think it's the most helpful, at least in my opinion, for thinking about how you use your energy and your time and how you kind of show up in business and online. It's been extremely helpful for me. So you can get your free chart online, just Google human design.

Listen to that episode with Jen and Christina because Jen's incredible and she'll walk you through some of the types, but that would be my fave. Yeah. Okay. I love human design from an entrepreneurship perspective as well. was so helpful for me even, you know, like even in the way we communicate with each other and like we've done human design with some of our team. We've done it like at our retreat. Like we love Jen. She does one-on-one sessions and they're amazing. Tiffany Jacobs also is great. She's been involved with high-five women and human design has been great for many of these women as well.

Kristina Bartold (28:43.234)
For me, I would say like what was like really formative for me was the Thomas Kilman instrument, which is not very well known, but it's like it's a conflict management tool where basically it ranks your conflict management like kind of tendencies and so that was actually really helpful for me to better understand like the way I come across because I do have a more like dominant conflict style more comfortable with conflict than the average bear and so that is important for me to know because

When I go to start conflict with people and they don't even realize it's conflict or whatever that looks like like it has really helped me soften my skills around that and be able to say like, you know, I would say difficult conversations are something that I'm I've worked out a lot in my like adult life and has been something I'm really proud of that I do have some good success with and you know, not that they're not hard and not that I still spiral out of control when I have to have them but

It really allowed me to better understand like where people are coming from where I'm like I know Maria is gonna avoid this problem until It's too far right and so if I just go to you, and I'm like hey this how I'm feeling about this Want to name it and you're like yep totally get it like I just have to beat you to it kind of thing and I know that then And I have to do it in a loving supportive way then and I know you're gonna respond well to that because you know I love you so much like you know it's I know that that's great right well an older version of me might have been like okay I'm gonna bulldoze this because I have to get my point across and it's my

It's on me to be win-win and like I have to win here and now I'm a little bit more okay with being like I'm actually okay to lose as long as the other person has a better Experience in the conversation, so I would say TK has been pretty formative for me. I love it. See look you're great You're into the personality stuff, too. I have one more left in me, and then I'm Okay, I'm gonna say astrology insane. This is I love this sorry I actually never believed in astrology because I'm a Leo and

you know, I hate public speaking, don't really like being the center of attention. But, and like the traditional traits that come with Leo. But when you look at your full chart, it paints a very different picture. So I started getting in the weeds on these TikToks of like, Jupiter sign tells you this and all this stuff. And it's like, there's so much insight and wisdom there. I really love the pattern app. And also a really cool trick is get your

Kristina Bartold (30:58.242)
Like birth chart the circle birth chart and then screenshot that and put into chat GBT and ask it questions That has been sure you have a ton of time jam lately. Oh my god I was I did this with Christina and I was like for hours spiraling on my laptop like this is so crazy You will be shocked at how accurate it is especially if you don't believe in astrology look at your full chart and look into that it is wild In terms of what it can help you with like literally anything and everything so

Love it. Self-hastrology. My last piece will just be Myers-Briggs. I don't do the assessment anymore because I'm too tired, but people like love it. You get a four. It's like it comes from like literally World War II like right after there we were like hey, why are people so different and like why do we treat each other this way and then

It was kind of built and formed kind of from that based on Carl Young's theories. So there's a lot of research. It's like the number one most taken personality test in the world. So it's very helpful, but it is only as helpful as you let it be and as accurate as you allow it to be. So something I will tell you with personality assessments, the ones Maria is talking about are based on your birth time, so you actually can't like mess with it really. But the ones I talk about, like you have to answer questions about yourself.

Answer them appropriately like don't go in there being like who is my best self and I'd love to show up as her That's not who you are all the time I used to really really fuck up tests all the time because I'd be like I think I'm this type because like I think I'm good at these things and I was not good at these things I just wanted to be so I think like really being in a self-aware spot can be helpful But the I love Myers-Briggs as a tool and especially it's a great tool team So if you've got a team we've done it with our team It really has helped me understand like our teammates and understand like where they're coming from on things

what they value, why they like information the way they like it. That was huge for me, was especially like knowing that I'm a P, which is perceiving preference, which means I'm like generally disorganized, but like pressure prompted. You know, things that like would really, really bother other people about me, I would be like, that's so weird, I'm just spontaneous. And then I had to really, like I trained myself to like really be able to work with other people in a better way and have other people respect my.

Kristina Bartold (32:59.426)
Skills in a different way and realize that's kind of part of my magic and so Yeah, really helpful If people are interested, I'm happy to give you guys some some good Resources on it, but yeah my research sort of mind it was funny the first time I took the Myers Briggs Course like ten years ago or test ten years ago Christina came back to me and was like hi Can you do this again and be more realistic? I think cuz I came out as a change she was like you are certainly not a J I taught Maria how to use a Google Calendar guys. She used to just keep things in her brain

Yeah, just sort them up here. So a few things slipped through the cracks. And the noggin. If this was still you today, nothing would happen. Like, we do so many things every single day that if you didn't have a list of some calendar, like it was just, I'd be like, what do you have planned to hear? Like, I think this. I'm like, cannot even imagine. Not thinking about that now, it does seem insane. I'm type Z. Yeah, yeah, you're type C for sure, for sure. Okay, last two really quick.

That are not based on birth time. Okay, Enneagram. I thought that was helpful. Yeah What are you the enthusiast? Yeah, I've come up as a multiple This is where I like I need Tracy O'Malley's help if you guys love Enneagram go check out Tracy O'Malley Her podcast is amazing, but I believe I'm the enthusiast, but I have come up as an achiever as well, so I Don't know. It's hard out here Either way those both I feel like are accurate for you

But anyway, yeah, that one's helped me a lot just understanding the way I show up and my my behaviors and kind of why I do Things the way I do and what decisions I make And then what was the last one? Oh, yeah that bird test. This is our friends suggested to us at first we were like, oh my god This is so stupid. It's like are you a peacock or are you a dove? But I actually got a few of our team members to do it and it really really helped me I think it

Helps a lot in teams. It didn't help me a ton for my own self-awareness, but when you're working with other people I think it really helps to understand how they operate what they prefer the way that they work all that kind of stuff Was I a peacock? Yeah, you were a peacock. I was a dove. Oh mood Ben was an owl. What was Lorena? Can't remember. I think dove. Okay. Yeah two devs now on a peacock, but I also think it's cool these personality tests because

Kristina Bartold (35:20.748)
They show you like who you work best around to like I when we were working for you like Christina have this team I think they're like four or five of us and every single one of us was an ENFP I was like how did we end up here? I'm a magnet to them. I'm a magnet. I'm a magnet. I remember I'm a magnet to certain types of people it's like this is like honestly that and Italian brunettes Like girls, I don't know what I'm a magnet to them. I am. Kira like all that like a lot

Right, so it's so funny But it's like I'm a magnet to ENFPs. I think because I'm so close in type like ENFPs are Like they're there you're super spontaneous. They're like the big dreamers. They're feelers. They're very empathetic They're they're like the teacher type They're like that kind of thing and I'm so close to that as an ESFP like I'm so like I want to be that so bad but the s is so strong that I'm like highly detail oriented in terms of

I need to understand like why the why behind everything you don't need to write so sometimes like you hold on to big vision and I'm like How does that happen like how do we make this happen like even the social business club like you're like? We're gonna reach this number of members and I'm like I'm gonna need you to put that in plan and put some dates attached to that because I need to know what the tasks that happen are like that's the way my brain works which is like again, I think helpful, but also Takes away from some of the magic right of the big vision so yeah

Guys, try some of these personality tests out. See what resonates. Let us know what you think. We love jamming out on these episodes where we get to just talk about some of stuff that we've learned and what's been most helpful to us in growing our business this much. Maria, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Such a fun episode. Won't be the last time. Wee. Have a great day, everyone. Bye. Thanks so much for listening to Community with Me. Christina Bartold, and I'm just so excited to continue the conversations. If you're looking to grow your community and learn more about social, join us at thesocialbusinessclub.ca.

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